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Whale Case

Whale Case (Property · Fast-Fish and Loose-Fish) — "Some fifty years ago there was a curious case of whale-trover litigated in England, wherein the plaintiffs…

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  • Litige anglais concernant la capture et la propriété d’une baleine abandonnée
  • Les demandeurs poursuivirent une baleine dans les mers du Nord et réussirent à la harponner
  • En danger de mort, les demandeurs abandonnèrent leurs lignes ainsi que leur bateau
  • L’équipage défendeur captura, tua et s’appropria ensuite la baleine sous leurs yeux
  • Les demandeurs réclamèrent la valeur de la baleine, des lignes, des harpons et du bateau
  • Erskine invoqua par comparaison une affaire concernant une épouse abandonnée puis reprise par un autre homme
  • Selon cette comparaison, l’épouse abandonnée était devenue un « loose-fish » et appartenait à celui qui la harponnait ensuite
  • Erskine soutint que les exemples de la baleine et de l’épouse s’éclairaient réciproquement
  • Le juge accorda le bateau aux demandeurs
  • Le juge attribua la baleine aux défendeurs
  • La baleine était devenue un « loose-fish » au moment de sa capture finale
  • Le juge attribua également les harpons et la ligne aux défendeurs
  • En emportant les harpons et la ligne, la baleine avait acquis un droit sur ces objets, transmis ensuite à ceux qui la capturèrent
  • L’abandon du bateau résultait seulement de la nécessité de sauver la vie des demandeurs
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Whale Case

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"Some fifty years ago there was a curious case of whale-trover litigated in England, wherein the plaintiffs set forth that after a hard chase of a whale in the Northern seas; and when indeed they, the plaintiffs, had succeeded in harpooning the fish; they were at last, through peril of their lives, obliged to forsake not only their lines, but their boat itself. Ultimately the defendants, the crew of another ship, came up with the whale, struck, killed, seized, and finally appropriated it before the very eyes of the plaintiffs. And when those defendants were remonstrated with, their captain snapped his fingers in the plaintiffs’ teeth, and assured them that by way of doxology to the deed he had done, he would now retain their line, harpoons, and boat, which had remained attached to the whale at the time of the seizure. Wherefore the plaintiffs now sued for the recovery of the value of their whale, line, harpoons, and boat. Mr. Erskine was counsel for the defendants; Lord Ellenborough was the judge. In the course of the defence, the witty Erskine went on to illustrate his position, by alluding to a recent crim. con. case, wherein a gentleman, after in vain trying to bridle his wife’s viciousness, had at last abandoned her upon the seas of life; but in the course of years, repenting of that step, he instituted an action to recover possession of her. Erskine was on the other side; and he then supported it by saying, that though the gentleman had originally harpooned the lady, and had once had her fast, and only by reason of the great stress of her plunging viciousness, had at last abandoned her; yet abandon her he did, so that she became a loose-fish; and therefore when a subsequent gentleman re-harpooned her, the lady then became that subsequent gentleman’s property, along with whatever harpoon might have been found sticking in her. Now in the present case Erskine contended that the examples of the whale and the lady were reciprocally illustrative of each other. These pleadings, and the counter pleadings, being duly heard, the very learned Judge in set terms decided, to wit, – That as for the boat, he awarded it to the plaintiffs, because they had merely abandoned it to save their lives; but that with regard to the controverted whale, harpoons, and line, they belonged to the defendants; the whale, because it was a Loose-Fish at the time of the final capture; and the harpoons and line because when the fish made off with them, it acquired a property in those articles; and hence anybody who afterwards took the fish had a right to them. Now the defendants afterwards took the fish; ergo, the aforesaid articles were theirs."

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